This is actually a pretty fascinating cultural phenomenon. I understand the comic is mostly humorous in nature, but just in case, I ask you not to take our apparent gloominess as hostility
Oh, I love it so much when Polish people say they were never a part of the soviet block. You can always bet it's a Polish person when there's a conversation about any subject concerning the Soviet Union and out of the blue someone says "But Poland was never a part of the Soviet Union!"
Well, I'm sorry this is the only cartoon here about Poland and that this is the only witty observation you were able to express about us. I can tell you that Poles are a bit suspicious of people who smile too much and find (mostly) Americans a bit silly because they smile all the time without any apparent reason. Jeez, why would you smile all the time when there's nothing to smile about... You must be a little funny in the head! ;)
I guess there is some truth to your cartoon but I do not like the way it perpatrates the image of Polish people as gloomy sullen bunch of boors :(
I believe you! I would LOVE to travel there again, the food was amazing and it's a beautiful country. I'm sure there's more to make fun of than just the frowns! ;)
I am really surprised you mentioned the food! You can't imagine how many looks of disbelief I got from my foreign friends when I mentioned beetroot soup, marinated mushrooms or poultry gizzards in aspic... One Italian asked me why I would overcook spaghetti and put it into my tomato soup - well, thats what we do! But you have to love oscypek, knedle ze śliwkami and pomidorowa. I'll even admit I love schabowy from a bar mleczny :)
It's difficult not to protest when Poland is made into an accomplice, and not a victim. We and Russians are sworn enemies! The day when they got rid of Poles from their throne is the greatest national day in Russia to this day - and the day when we got our freedom back from Russians is the greatest national day in Poland!
It's an overkill, but just to make sure I've made my point:
The following is the list of the 17 Polish-Russian wars - basically there've been at least 3 wars between us and Russians EVERY century over the last 500 years:
We totally do belong to the Frown Block, true, no pride in that! Recently I saw in a new czech commedy series: A policeman at psychiatrist Doctor: So, do you think you have a depression? Policeman: That's when you are more sad than the situation really is, right? No. I am exactly as depressed as the situation is. In fact, when I see someone who is smiling, I feel like to check him/her. That's already suspicious that they are happy in today's world.
She was pointing out corruption etc. but I think it quite describes how do we think :D. You don't really need to frown, but rather to keep a serious face. If you would be smiling too much and expressing happiness, people could think you don't know how to behave on public, or that you are drunk, crazy etc. Smile is not by default, smile is for private use here!
.. by "private" I mean it is something intimate. Happiness not an emotion we would share publicly, with strangers, that would marked us "naive" or silly. Like you don't share with people on bus what happened to you and your wife yesterday at bedroom, you don't share the happiness. You can do that if you are telling your friend though.
Try to smile and look at people in Frown Block and you will terribly confuse them. They will think your smile has some purpose - that you are their friend, you want to tell something special etc. Some very negative people will even understad your smiling as mocking them.
The youth usually enjoys that, come back and say: "Such a NICE country, people smile at you, everyone is happy! We, guys, should do the same!" and then they are smiling for next two months until the seriousness bury them back. Own experience. :DDD Older people - Not sure, they usually describes such country very positively, but then I don't see they would be about to change themselves and realize they can smile more too.
I still smile sometimes, but when doing that I avoid looking at people not to confuse them much. I am promoting the passive happiness. I smile at children openly though. (They seem to be confused too).
Polish people just don't smile incinserely. If the person laughs on something, or likes something, or just is having good mood, he or she smiles. That's all, and looks like it is common to all Slavs, because I'm Russian and understand that :-)
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Getting me all excited for the happy people I see
ReplyDeleteJust think of it as rest for your smile muscles
DeleteThis is actually a pretty fascinating cultural phenomenon. I understand the comic is mostly humorous in nature, but just in case, I ask you not to take our apparent gloominess as hostility
ReplyDeletehttp://reuvera.hubpages.com/hub/Why-Russians-Dont-Smile-In-the-Streets
The article is about Russia in particular, but a lot of it is true for all of the former Soviet Bloc
A very interesting article, actually, thanks! Now we know the gloomy truth...
DeleteHaha, I just noticed the first comment on the article: "they do smile, when something goes wrong"
DeleteExcept poland was never a part of soviet block, and polish people have very few in common with russians. thanks, bye.
ReplyDeleteBut it was definitely part of the Frown Block
DeleteOh, I love it so much when Polish people say they were never a part of the soviet block. You can always bet it's a Polish person when there's a conversation about any subject concerning the Soviet Union and out of the blue someone says "But Poland was never a part of the Soviet Union!"
DeleteWell, I'm sorry this is the only cartoon here about Poland and that this is the only witty observation you were able to express about us.
I can tell you that Poles are a bit suspicious of people who smile too much and find (mostly) Americans a bit silly because they smile all the time without any apparent reason. Jeez, why would you smile all the time when there's nothing to smile about... You must be a little funny in the head! ;)
I guess there is some truth to your cartoon but I do not like the way it perpatrates the image of Polish people as gloomy sullen bunch of boors :(
Not ALL Polish people! Just those four people, and that dog!
DeleteThat was quick! :) <-- smile!
DeleteBut... ok, I have to say this: whenever I come back to Poland from abroad I feel... like your cartoon.
We're good people, though!
I believe you! I would LOVE to travel there again, the food was amazing and it's a beautiful country. I'm sure there's more to make fun of than just the frowns! ;)
DeleteI am really surprised you mentioned the food! You can't imagine how many looks of disbelief I got from my foreign friends when I mentioned beetroot soup, marinated mushrooms or poultry gizzards in aspic... One Italian asked me why I would overcook spaghetti and put it into my tomato soup - well, thats what we do!
DeleteBut you have to love oscypek, knedle ze śliwkami and pomidorowa. I'll even admit I love schabowy from a bar mleczny :)
Hell yeah! There's nothing better on a cold winter's day than some Polish soup. Warms the belly and scowls the jowl!
DeleteIt's difficult not to protest when Poland is made into an accomplice, and not a victim. We and Russians are sworn enemies! The day when they got rid of Poles from their throne is the greatest national day in Russia to this day - and the day when we got our freedom back from Russians is the greatest national day in Poland!
DeleteThe comic strip is very accurate, though :(
It's an overkill, but just to make sure I've made my point:
DeleteThe following is the list of the 17 Polish-Russian wars - basically there've been at least 3 wars between us and Russians EVERY century over the last 500 years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Polish%E2%80%93Russian_wars
That's 3 wars per century too many
DeleteI live in Poland and can confirm this
ReplyDeleteI'm happy to hear that.
Delete:(
I can also confirm that middle schoolers here are retards.
DeleteWell....I doubt that ALL of them are...
DeleteI felt like that but in the czech republic
ReplyDeleteGood ol' Eastern Bloc, decimating happiness since the USSR
DeleteWe totally do belong to the Frown Block, true, no pride in that! Recently I saw in a new czech commedy series:
DeleteA policeman at psychiatrist
Doctor: So, do you think you have a depression?
Policeman: That's when you are more sad than the situation really is, right? No. I am exactly as depressed as the situation is. In fact, when I see someone who is smiling, I feel like to check him/her. That's already suspicious that they are happy in today's world.
She was pointing out corruption etc. but I think it quite describes how do we think :D. You don't really need to frown, but rather to keep a serious face. If you would be smiling too much and expressing happiness, people could think you don't know how to behave on public, or that you are drunk, crazy etc. Smile is not by default, smile is for private use here!
.. by "private" I mean it is something intimate. Happiness not an emotion we would share publicly, with strangers, that would marked us "naive" or silly. Like you don't share with people on bus what happened to you and your wife yesterday at bedroom, you don't share the happiness. You can do that if you are telling your friend though.
DeleteTry to smile and look at people in Frown Block and you will terribly confuse them. They will think your smile has some purpose - that you are their friend, you want to tell something special etc. Some very negative people will even understad your smiling as mocking them.
That's pretty intense...what happens when Frown Blockers travel to, like, Kenya, where everyone is smiling ALL the time?
DeleteThe youth usually enjoys that, come back and say: "Such a NICE country, people smile at you, everyone is happy! We, guys, should do the same!" and then they are smiling for next two months until the seriousness bury them back.
DeleteOwn experience.
:DDD
Older people - Not sure, they usually describes such country very positively, but then I don't see they would be about to change themselves and realize they can smile more too.
I still smile sometimes, but when doing that I avoid looking at people not to confuse them much. I am promoting the passive happiness. I smile at children openly though. (They seem to be confused too).
oh guys, you r lucky you have not been to Russia... Poland's frown faces are nothing compare to Russians...:))
ReplyDeleteYeah I hear the frowns get deeper the farther east you travel
DeletePolish people just don't smile incinserely. If the person laughs on something, or likes something, or just is having good mood, he or she smiles. That's all, and looks like it is common to all Slavs, because I'm Russian and understand that :-)
ReplyDeleteA woman on the bus in Klaipeda, Lithuania told me that she knew i must be an american, because "men don't smile here."
ReplyDeleteHah! That's about right
DeleteSo THAT's why my Polish friend commented on "Americans and their everlasting smiles."
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